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The first in a series of two stories
HENDERSONVILLE — A national threat is posed by Muslim jihadis working with Marxists, Chris Gaubatz told a gathering of about 50 members of the Asheville Tea Party and their guests on the afternoon of May 17 in Hendersonville’s City Operations Center.
The address marked Gaubatz’s return to Western North Carolina after addressing similar topics in the area on Feb. 12 and 13, in Skyland and Hendersonville, respectively. His talk in Skyland, which the Daily Planet covered, prompted profuse criticism of the newspaper for covering what Ibrahim Hooper dismissed as an “Islamaphobe.” Hooper is national communications director and spokesman for the Council of American-Islamic Relations.
Originally, Gaubatz also was scheduled to speak May 16 at Skyland Fire Department in Buncombe County, and the next day in Hendersonville, but Jane Bilello, chair of the ATP and ATPAC, said she decided to cancel the Skyland appearance and consolidate to just one talk — for those in Buncombe and Henderson counties — in Hendersonville. Gaubatz spoke in Haywood and Transylvia counties the next day and night.
In his Hendersonville address, Gaubatz spoke on “Experiences Undercover in the Muslim Brotherhood and Hamas” and “Red-Green Axis: Exposing the Left Working With Jihadis to Undermine Our Nation” — and other topics.
Besides speaking, before and after his talks he sold and signed copies of “Muslim Mafia: Inside the Secret Underworld That’s Conspiring to Islamize America,” a book written by U.S. investigations special agent Paul David Gaubatz, (Chris’ father) and investigative journalist and Hoover Institute fellow Paul Sperry.
The book tells of Paul Gaubatz’s training of his son (Chris) to work undercover, posing as a Muslim convert, and tells of the evidence that Chris Gaubatz uncovered.
Bilello, who, as per her usual practice made a pitch for the tea party movement in general and the ATP in particular, called for volunteers and spoke of the need for more pilitical activism than conservatives traditionally have practiced.
“We’re 1,400 (names) on our email list — and growing,” she said of the ATP, as she stood under a banner of the AshevilleTeaParty.org that featured the slogan: “Taxed Enough Already!”
Bilello stressed that “we don’t get behind all Republican candidates. We want to make sure they can ‘walk the talk.’”
Regarding Gaubatz, Bilello triggered applause when she said, “Today we’re here with this incredible guy.” As the audience clapped, Gaubatz smiled back at the crowd.
Bilello added, “We (the ATP) don’t sit around. We’re 10 years old. Most of the tea parties in the state have disappeared, but we’ve stayed the course.
“With that,” Bilello said, “I’m introducing this wonderful guy. He put his life on the line” for the United States. “He went undercover....”
She ended her introduction by interjecting, in a reference to Gaubatz’s efforts, “I don’t know if you know that President (Donald) Trump has said he wants to get Hamas declared a terrorist group.” The crowd again applauded.
Gaubatz spoke for 75 minutes and then fielded questions from the audience for about 30 minutes.
He began by noting that he first needed to take a deep sip from a can of Red Bull energy drink, as “I drove nine hours from Clarksville, Tenn., before I spoke to a group in Raleigh” — and then made the four-plus-hour drive to be at the afternoon talk.
Regarding his address, Gaubatz warned, “If this is uncomfortable, that’s fine, as we’ve had people lay down their lives for us.
“Also, I’d like to say thank you to Jane here in... Is this Asheville? (“No,” some of the attendees responded, laughing).
Bilello gently noted that Gaubatz was speaking in Hendersonville, at which point Gaubatz, who smiled and never lost his cool, said glibly, triggering more laughter, “Here in ... the USA, you have a a great activist” in Bilello. “It’s at the local level where it’s at.
“I will tell you right off the bat… Everybody always wants to know what they can do about it (keeping the U.S. on course). I’ll tell you right now… if you’re spending all your free time on the Drudge Report (website), reading what senators are eating for lunch, of watch Fox News (on television)... but you don’t know what’s happening on the local level, and we do know everything happening in Washington, D.C., we’ve got it totally flipped around.
“Unfortunately, what I’ve seen is a lot of good people — conservatives — check Drudge, watch Tucker (Carlson on Fox) at night, and ignore their local community… Any spare time you’ve got, let’s funnel it into the local level. So if you’re motivated after my talk, please get involved on the local level.”
At that point, Gaubatz added, “Conservatives getting organized is like herding cats, right? We have to be organized and active all year, every year....”
“Okay,” he said, “Where am I going to go today? We’re talking about Marxism and jihad, so there’s lot to talk about.
“The Muslim Brotherhood’s sole purpose when established in 1928 in Egypt was to restore the caliphate....
“I went undercover for six months, with CAIR, the Council on American-Islamic Relations, so that’s my expertise.”
(CAIR’s website says the organization’s “vision is to be a leading advocate for justice and mutual understanding” and its mission “is to enhance understanding of Islam, protect civil rights, promote justice, and empower American Muslims.)
Gaubatz told the crowd, “What I started to realize, you take jihad out of the picture. Let’s pretend for a few seconds that 9/11 never happened... How is it that the most powerful, best-trained fighters in the world, that we (the United States) have crushed them overseas for years, yet we haven’t won any of those wars?
“You begin to assess the enemy based on who they say they are. They all say the same thing: they’re waging jihad to establish sharia.
(Sharia is defined as Islamic canonical law based on the teachings of the Koran and the traditions of the Prophet (Hadith and Sunna), prescribing both religious and secular duties and sometimes retributive penalties for lawbreaking. It has generally been supplemented by legislation adapted to the conditions of the day, though the manner in which it should be applied in modern states is a subject of dispute between Islamic fundamentalists and modernists.)
Gaubatz asked, “How in the world are we going” to be successful “if our leaders in Washington aren’t studying jihad?
“We’re have some real problems off a far left movement that has been working to subvert this nation for decades, “even back in the ‘30s and ‘40s....”
Gaubatz then suggested that conservatives read the 1957 book “Bending the Twig: The Revolution in Education and Its Effect on Our Children” by Augustin G. Rudd.
For more than a dozen years, Rudd “studied our (U.S.) school systems” ... and concluded in 1956 that we’ve already lost our schools.. He concluded that we’ve completely lost our public schools to the Marxists.”
Gaubatz said that Rudd’s finding that American public education generally is “denigrating our Founding Fathers” is a practice that continues today.
“The fact that we spend more time on social studies and social issues than on reading, writing and arithmetic” backs up that assertion, he said.
More than a half-century ago, “We (the U.S.) stopped putting an emphasis on history, geography and civics. Instead, time is put on talking about social theory.”
In Rudd’s study as laid out in his book,“if you do all this, he concluded, then you get what we got today,” Gaubatz said.
“I would challenge you to look up the Community Party’s website and read it. And compare it to the Democrats running for office now. I can’t find any difference between the CPA and the DNC (Democratic National Committee).”
Gaubatz added, “We’re divided today because we have two competing interests (what he termed the”etablishment Republicans” and the Democrats). One (side) is President Trump and his ‘Make America Great Again,’” and on the other are the others, fueled by the Muslim-Marxist axis.
“It’s no coincidence that both sides (the fought him tooth and nail. It’s no surprise the Democrats have opposed him....
“I travel around the Southeast — for right now — speaking to conservatives. Those of us who are conservatives absolutely have to clean up our house....
“President Trump needs us in our local communities to work hard.
“I’d argue that many conservatives are getting close to what’s going on,” but there is much more they need to learn.”
Gaubatz then asked, “How many of you” — if called upon — “could give a two-minute talk to five people about Hegelian dialectics — dialectical materialism.?”Two people raised their hands. (Gaubatz’s reference was to Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel (1770-1831), who was a noted German philosopher.)
Regarding Hegelian dialectics, Gaubatz said, “Hegel was a philosopher from Germany.,” who developed a theory that, “out of two opposing ideas, you synthesize those two ideas to something new. So if you have a truth and an un-truth, whatever that new is… It’s still an un-truth. When you watch CNN, I want you think about that…. That’s how you get where we’ve gotten today. There’s no free speech on college campuses. There are no conservative voices on campuses. That is the result of compromising on a truth…. When you talk justice and apply it to Marxist theory, you get social justice.”
Next, Gaubatz spoke of his experiences as an undercover agent for the U.S. State Department. “I would be the last person in the world to go undercover with Hamas,” he said. “My father was a ‘spy catcher.’ He had a phenomenal career. We had a good life... My story really is his story. I’m grateful to be in his life. I really am.
“When 9/11 happened, it changed a lot of people’s lives. It changed the whole trajectory of the country in many, many ways.
After the 9/11 tragedy, “My Dad came out of retirement . He was an Arab linguist. He’d go into villages and gather information... My father was part of a small team that got Jessica Lynch’s family out” of Iraq in 2003.
Regarding his criticisms of Islam, Gaubatz emphasized, “That doesn’t mean there aren’t good, decent human beings who are Muslims. But that doesn’t change what the doctrine says. In a nutshell it says: ‘The world is divided into two parts — the house of Islam and the house of war. And that all houses need to be converted into the house of Islam.”
He then prompted laughter from the audience when he quipped, “Do you want to know what an ‘inter-faith dialogue’ is? A pastor, priest or rabbi tells a Muslim cleric how good Islam is — and the cleric says how good Islam is.”
Abdul Rahman al-Amoudi “was the most active Muslim in the United States” in the 1990s., Gaubatz said. “He was an advisor to Vice President Al Gore. No other Muslim spent more time advising the government on Capitol Hill in the 1990s than him.”
He added that Rahman al-Amoudi, an American former Muslim activist known for founding the American Muslim Council, pleaded guilty to financial and conspiracy charges in 2004, which resulted in a 23-year prison sentence
At that point, Gaubatz noted that “CAIR, oh, by the way, is the organization that doesn’t want you to hear what I have to say. Of course, they don’t want me to speak...
“This is why I’m a huge supporter of President Trump. We dodged a major bullet when we elected President Trump.” (Gaubatz’s praise of Trump triggered applause.)
During his talk, Gaubatz castigated former President George W. Bush for, in his view, pandering to Muslims immediately after 9/11. “President Bush was the commander in chief” during and after 9/11 and, as president, “it is his responsibility to udnerstand what victory looks like and to understand the enemy,” but he failed in that mission.
“Even though I get called every name in the book for what I’m doing, I don’t care. We’ve got people willing to go overseas to lay down their lives for our country — and we don’t know what victory looks like.”
Turning back to his experiences as an undercover agent, he said, “So how did I go undercover?
“My background was (with a) check and credit card company for a Fortune 500 company — not fighting jihad.
“So my Dad became my handler in an undercover project, where I spent six months…..We had a legal team behind us... So I did a fake conversion in Falls Church, Va., where Anwar Awlaki was the imam.
“My cover story was that I meant a Muslim girl in college and I wanted to marry her... The imam said, ‘Are you sure you want to do this, as there is no going back?
His undercover work was done in 2007 and, “as a ‘convert,’ I could get by without knowing a lot. Everything I learned about Islam, I learned from Islamic scholars... I went to hours of lectures.”
Changing subjects, he then turned to what he termed “the red-green axis — the Marxists working with the Muslims... By the way, I’m Christian. I did a fake conversion, I’ll say that one more time.”
Gaubatz said that CAIR goes to great lengths to orchestrate its actions, with an emphasis on “how to talk to the media.”
He added, My very first day going undercover with CAIR, I, all of a sudden, discovered I had a wire hanging out of my shirt.” Fortunaely for him, Gaubatz said, CAIR officials did not notice his wire.
“We — my father and I — knew that CAIR was offering an internship. I had to be a good intern, if was going to be successful. These were really long days. We didn’t want it to seem that I was too eager because they would look into my background.
“I changed my name, obviously, for the project. They didn’t know that.
“One guy (with whom he interviewed at CAIR) suggested he should be an intern at CAIR. Because he liked me, he never did any of the proper background checks. Oh, by the way, for any organization that you’re part of, follow your security protocol procedures because they’re there for a reason.
“So I started to do an internship. I started to hear the same complaint on phone calls.” Because he was more energetic than the other interns, Gaubatz said, “I was given access” to records.
— By JOHN NORTH/Daily Planet
EDITOR’S NOTE: The second — and last — part of this story will appear in next month’s Daily Planet.
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